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Markets Foster Peace With Vampires

24 Thursday Jul 2014

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Economics, Glen Whitman, Markets in Everything, Sustainability, Vampires, Volokh Conspiracy

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The prospect of vampire re-ensoulment prompts some entertaining thoughts about economic philosophy in this post at the Volokh Conspiracy. Here is a sample:

Why presume that having more humans or human-like beings on the planet is even a problem at all? The ecological concern seems to borrow from the perspective of doomsayers like Paul Ehrlich, who have been beating the population-bomb drum for decades. And for decades, the doomsayers have been proven wrong.

And here is a classic closing sentence:

By establishing a legal market in human blood, as suggested by Enrique Guerra-Pujol in Chapter 12, we could go a long way toward creating an incentive for vampires (especially re-ensouled ones) to eschew violence in favor of remunerative work in the combined vampire-human economy, to the benefit of both the living and the dead.

 

Statists Opposed To Legal Immigration AND Legal Drugs

23 Wednesday Jul 2014

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Child migrants, Federalism, Immigration reform, State-based visas, statism, War on Drugs

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Views on U.S. immigration policy are often shaped by fears and misconceptions about the economic impact of immigration, such as competition for jobs and strains on the welfare state and the education system. While there is some basis for suspecting that heavy inflows of immigrants will cause economic dislocations in the short term, an even stronger case can be made that immigration is good for the economy, on balance. Policy should allow at least enough legal immigration to meet private labor demands across all skill levels, to keep families united, and for legitimate humanitarian purposes. Job opportunities in the U.S. should attract workers; blocking their entry is not in our economic interest. The desire to do so represents a pernicious form of statism.

Limits on the number of legal immigrants to the U.S. has inflamed the current immigration debate in part because it has led to a spillover of illegal immigrants. It is possible to seal the borders completely only at great expense, an expense that is not worthwhile. These illegal residents must be dealt with under any reform proposal. Costly deportation of large numbers of illegals is not a viable option. Many are gainfully employed and are thus contributing to the U.S. economy, and many have other family members in the U.S. Some long-term path to citizenship should be made available. Some illegals (and legals) either are or will be dependent on public assistance, but it is hard to justify deportation based on that fact. Some may be criminals, in which case deportation may be an option.

Recently, Major General John Kelly of the Marine Corps blamed the unfortunate surge in child migrants on the “insatiable U.S. demand for drugs.” In fact, the demand for drugs would have no role whatsoever were it not for the ill-advised U.S. war on drugs. The CATO Institute makes this case very well in a recent commentary. Of course, the war on drugs is another pernicious form of statism.

One very interesting approach to immigration reform would take a federalist approach to issuing visas, as explained in this CATO Policy Analysis. “A state-based visa program would direct immigration to the states that want it without forcing much additional immigration on those that do not. Unlike existing employment-based visas that tie foreign workers to one firm, state-based visa holders would be free to move between employers within the state….” This program would have economic benefits and political viability, the latter by virtue of allowing a strong degree of control over immigration at the state level.

Devilish Sympathy For Hamas

20 Sunday Jul 2014

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hamas-cartoon Anti-Zionist rhetoric is becoming increasingly shrill as Israel attempts to defend itself against an ongoing barrage of missiles fired by Hamas from residential areas in Gaza. Some of the claims being made about Israel’s maneuvers are implausible and even bizarre, especially given the unpopularity of Hamas among Palestinians, their history of uncooperative dealings, and their recent refusal to accept cease-fire terms brokered by Egypt. “Understanding What Hamas Wants” is a good assessment of the situation and, on a complete reading, provides a balanced viewpoint, offering criticisms of actions of both sides in the conflict. The piece does not question Israeli’s right of self-determination or to defend themselves. An example:

An alternative to this current horrible reality presented itself in 2005, when the Israeli government—after years of foolish and destructive colonization—expelled thousands of Jewish settlers from Gaza and then withdrew its army. The Palestinian leadership could have taken the opportunity created by the Israeli withdrawal to build the nucleus of a state. Instead, Gaza was converted into a rocket-manufacturing and -launching facility. But here’s a bit of good news: The people of Gaza, who suffer from Hamas rule, appear to be tired of it.

It’s unfortunate that so much anti-Zionist rhetoric relies on the genocide lie, as described at the link by Jonah Goldberg. In another good piece, Charles Krauthammer covers the ethics of the actions taken by Hamas and Israel. Yet the propagandized version of events repeated by anti-Zionist parrots ignores the obvious. And they keep repeating the words of certain Israeli hawks as if they are representative of an actual defensive strategy.

Deductible Concept Sprung On Newly Insured

19 Saturday Jul 2014

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No, the monthly premium on your Obamacare coverage does NOT cover your deductible and copayments. You’re still on the hook for those bills. Apparently, that reality comes as a shock to many of the newly insured. And apparently, that reaction was unexpected by the drafters of the ACA as well as HHS, the state exchanges, and various organizations involved in the implementation of Obamacare. So, many of the previously uninsured, intended as the chief beneficiaries of the ACA, are feeling disillusioned, even jilted, by the terms of their coverage. As if the poor risk profile of enrollees weren’t bad enough, and amid continuing doubts about whether those purchasing coverage under Obamacare are actually paying their premia, the confusion among this constituency is a bad omen for the sustainability of the program.

Roth Plan Advantage Often Ephemeral

13 Sunday Jul 2014

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Roth tax-deferred savings vehicles (IRAs and 401Ks) are frequently touted as superior to traditional IRA or 401K savings for young savers, sometimes for the wrong reasons. Both types of vehicles offer tax advantages for retirement saving. Roth contributions are taxed immediately, but they grow tax-free and are completely tax-free at withdrawal. Traditional IRA and 401k contributions (“traditionals”) are tax-deductible, but the contributions and growth are taxed at withdrawal. The key determinant of which type of plan contribution is best at a given time is the tax rate faced today relative to the years of withdrawal. Based on this consideration, the Roth is better (for today’s contribution) if today’s tax rate is lower. If today’s tax rate is higher than during the withdrawal period, the traditional plan is more advantageous.

Comparing the two types of saving vehicles must be done on a basis that is equivalent in terms of post-tax, post-contribution income. For example, suppose an individual with a current annual income of $50,000 desires to set aside 6% of their income in their employer’s Roth 401k. The individual’s marginal tax rate is 15% federal plus 5% state. Therefore, they must part with pre-tax income of $3,750 to generate a net $3,000 plan contribution (ignoring the FICA tax). The individual has a “disposable” income after taxes and saving of $50,000 – $10,000 (taxes) – $3,000 = $37,000. Instead, if the individual contributed $3,750 to a traditional 401k, their disposable income would be exactly the same. (The contribution is tax deductible, but the extra tax savings from the 401k deduction is invested in the plan.) This equivalence in terms of the current disposable income is crucial, because the extra contribution in the traditional plan made possible by the immediate tax deduction serves to offset the Roth’s later tax advantage. Megan McArdle, for whom I have tremendous respect, overlooks this point in a piece about Roths here. Moreover, the number of years of untaxed growth in a Roth does not matter if the traditional vehicle grows as well, contrary to one popular explanation of the Roth’s advantages.

Some Easy Math: The conclusions stated above can be deduced easily from basic equations for future value (FV – for the time of the last contribution) in the presence of proportional taxes:

Net FV(Roth) = Gross Monthly Contrib x FVfactor x (1 – tax rate @ contrib)

Gross FV(Trad) = Gross Monthly Contrib x FVfactor

Net FV(Trad) = Gross Monthly Contrib x FVfactor x (1 – tax rate @ w/drawal)

where FVfactor is a function of the return on savings (naturally assumed to be common to the plans) and the number of months of contributions. Obviously, the two plans are equivalent if the two tax rates are equal. While these equations assume that the plan values are compared at the time of the last contribution, the results are robust to longer or differing patterns of withdrawals, as long as the same gross returns are available to both plans (this statement ignores certain rules for mandatory distributions, discussed later).

Comparing Future Outcomes: The table below shows comparisons of Roth and traditional contributions under various scenarios (click on the “?” icon to view the table). The withdrawals in these examples are structured as fixed monthly payouts (annuities) over 30 years. Returns during “retirement” (4%) are assumed to be lower than during the years of contributions (7%). The two vehicles yield the same ultimate level of benefits if the tax rates are the same during the years of contribution and withdrawal (the first “panel” of four rows in the table). If the current tax rate is lower, the traditional vehicle benefits more from the immediate tax deduction than the Roth gains later via non-taxable withdrawals (the second and third panels). The opposite is true if the current tax rate is higher than during the years of withdrawal (the fourth panel). The rightmost column of the table shows the aggregate value of the government’s tax revenue on a time-valued basis, carried forward (traditional) or discounted (Roth) to the date at which contributions end. It should come as no surprise that the difference in the net value of the two vehicles to the saver is equal to the difference in the government’s take (but of opposite sign). If you expect your tax rate to be lower in retirement, you lose and the government wins if you elect to be taxed early on retirement saving, i.e., the Roth.

Likely Tax Rates? What tax rate assumptions are realistic for most savers? First, current marginal federal and state tax rates should be applied to gross Roth contributions. However, a strong argument can be made that tax rates during the period of withdrawal (traditional) should be lower than during the years of contribution. There are three resaons for this:

1) Retirement incomes tend to be lower than during working years for most savers, which often implies a lower tax bracket.

2) Just as importantly, withdrawals from accumulated savings may not represent marginal income, because they are often taxed across multiple brackets because they represent a substantial portion of retirement income. An average tax rate may be more appropriate for calculating the net benefit of withdrawals from a traditional plan. To some extent, this depends upon how social security benefits are taxed, since those benefits may represent “base income” for purposes of calculating an average tax rate applicable to plan withdrawals. Regardless, it can be argued that taxable withdrawals should be assessed at lower tax rates than taxable contributions.

3)   Finally, many retirees choose to spend their post-working years in states with lower or no state income taxes, such as Florida and Texas. This would imply an even greater advantage for traditional plans over Roths.

Despite these considerations, there are many young savers laboring in cubicles who are cheerfully anticipating much higher earning years ahead, even for those distant years of retirement from the corner office. For this group, it is possible that contributions to a Roth make sense, but probably not beyond a certain point in their careers, when their marginal tax rate rises above the likely tax rate they will face in retirement. By then, the Roth option will be foreclosed if their incomes exceed the Roth limits on earnings eligibility. Still, the Roth is probably less likely to pan out as the best choice for most workers currently above the 25% federal tax bracket and many at or below it.

Other Roth Advantages: There may be other potential advantages of Roth savings over traditional tax-deferred plans. One is that Roths give the saver more flexibility over the timing of withdrawals simply because the withdrawals are not taxed as ordinary income. (Early Roth withdrawals are subject to the 10% penalty tax (before age 59½, with exceptions.)) Perhaps more importantly, by taking the tax hit immediately on Roth contributions, with no tax liability on future earnings, a Roth has a more certain tax impact than a traditional plan. It may be comforting to think that one’s tax rate is likely to be low in retirement, but who can say how high tax rates will be in the future, given the sorry state of government finances? Then again, the federal government could one day elect to violate its pledge not to tax Roth withdrawals, or it could even impose a wealth tax with broad applicability to all Roth and traditional plan balances. Death and taxes may be certain, but the integrity of government is not.

Finally, there are no mandatory Roth distributions at any age. This flexibility may be useful to some retirees, since complete deferral of taes beyond age 70½ is impossible on traditional plan assets. In terms of estate planning, the final accumulation of assets in a Roth can be passed along to heirs income tax-free. Therefore, an inherited Roth will have more value than a traditional plan if the heirs are in relatively high tax brackets. This argument is often used in favor of Roth conversions from traditional plans, even for individuals of advanced age. Extending the logic, even if traditional plans had no mandatory distributions, Roths would have an estate planning advantage beyond age 70½ if the heirs are in higher tax brackets than their benefactor. In any case, the traditional option is foreclosed for this purpose, given the mandatory distribution requirement on traditional tax-deferred savings.

Trampling On the Right To Have Others Pay

12 Saturday Jul 2014

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“If it weren’t for state power, the Little Sisters of the Poor would be happily not facilitating the birth-control purchases of its employees; the Barack Obama administration has attempted to force them to do otherwise.” That’s from Megan McArdle in a good piece on the Supreme Court’s Hobby Lobby decision. Here’s more:

The interesting question is why people on the other side view ceasing the coercion as itself coercive while arguing that the original law did not, in fact, force anyone to violate their religious beliefs. …while the religious right views religion as a fundamental, and indeed essential, part of the human experience, the secular left views it as something more like a hobby, so for them it’s as if a major administrative rule was struck down because it unduly burdened model-train enthusiasts.

That’s worth an LOL! Oh yes, it’s coercive if we can’t be permitted to coerce you. As a friend recently quipped, your reproductive decisions might not be your employer’s business, but you make it their business when you ask them to pay for your decisions. The economics of the decisions are secondary to First Amendment rights, as buttressed by the Religious Freedom Restoration Act.

The Hobby Lobby decision was not strictly about contraception, but as to the economics of contraception and whether it pays for itself, as many insist, this post offers some interesting perspectives. The economics are not quite as settled as some would have you believe.

What a Joy To Be a Social Scientist With ESSP

09 Wednesday Jul 2014

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Arnold Kling, central planning, Scientism, Social Science

The world of social phenomena is so complex that we should be guarded in accepting appeals to scientism. As Arnold Kling points out, social scientism is insidious because it may appear to comport with “common sense,” yet this frequently involves a fallacy of division. Kling believes we should do our best to exercise “ESSP,” or Epistemological Skepticism about Social Phenomena. The egos of central planners are fed by social scientism of the type described by Kling, but their promises regularly fail to pan out, leading to a kind of societal senescence. But if we all rev up our ESSP, and keep are meddling hands off, we’re likely to enjoy a more creative and prosperous society. Let freedom ring!

The Parasite In Our Midst

09 Wednesday Jul 2014

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The administrative state is costly in many ways. It not only creates obstacles to economic growth. In promulgating and complying with its dictates, it absorbs vast amounts of resources within both the public and the private sectors. It also provides an avenue through which private elites can curry favor via lucrative contracts and favorable regulatory treatment, often gaining competitive advantages and even monopoly status. The opportunities for graft are legion, of course. The infamous revolving door in and out of government service reinforces the rent seeking potential afforded by this “fourth branch” of government. It is a prime example of the dangers of being governed by men rather than laws. Bureaucrats seem to become self-empowered to make wide-ranging and arbitrary decisions regarding matters not anticipated by any enabling legislation.

In “Bled Dry By The New Class,” Glenn Reynolds offers some insightful remarks regarding the sociological phenomenon that is the administrative state. He provides a telling quote from a frustrated Greek entrepreneur, which should be taken as a warning for us: “I, like thousands of others trying to start businesses, learned that I would be at the mercy of public employees who interpreted the laws so they could profit themselves.”

Bad Wind Has No Payback

04 Friday Jul 2014

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I have often heard greens discuss energy gains associated with alternative energy sources, to the exclusion of other resource costs. The idea of energy gain can be very meaningful. For example, nuclear fusion is only now approaching the point of an energy gain. Of course, making fusion an economic source of energy requires much more efficiency than a simple energy gain. Yet the narrative for certain “green” technologies is that energy gains are all that matters. This thinking is fundamentally flawed, to put it kindly. Here is the full embodiment of the idea, as described by Anthony Watts:

US researchers have carried out an environmental lifecycle assessment of 2-megawatt wind turbines mooted for a large wind farm in the US Pacific Northwest. Writing in the International Journal of Sustainable Manufacturing, they conclude that in terms of cumulative energy payback, or the time to produce the amount of energy required of production and installation, a wind turbine with a working life of 20 years will offer a net benefit within five to eight months of being brought online.   

The reaction at Coyoteblog is amusing. As noted there, the total resource costs of manufacturing and installing the energy production and distribution facilities are just as real in any “green” sense as the energy expended. This is to say nothing of some of the other shortfalls in assumptions mentioned at the link, as well as the avian death toll. The “payback” measure used by the wind farm researchers constitutes naivete at best and propaganda in pursuit of rents at worst.

I’m convinced that the environmentally-concerned public has the best intentions, but there is a deep misunderstanding at play: the notion that the state must intervene to facilitate the adoption of “sustainable” technologies, never mind that these technologies often require massive subsidies to be economically viable. A nice quote on this point from Coyoteblog:

Environmentalists seem to all feel that capitalism is the enemy of sustainability, but in fact capitalism is the greatest system to promote sustainability that has ever been devised. Every single resource has a price that reflects its relative scarcity as compared to demand. Scarcer resources have higher prices that automatically promote conservation and seeking of substitutes. So an analysis of an investment’s ability to return its cost is in effect a sustainability analysis. 

 

The Jobs Report: All Part-Time; Full-Time Down Half-a-Mil

04 Friday Jul 2014

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Full- vs. Part-Time

There were many breathless reports about today’s release of employment data for June, including this bit of coverage from Forbes. The report was better than expected in many ways: the number of jobs created was fairly strong; there were positive revisions to prior months; the official unemployment rate fell, as did the total “U-6” unemployment rate, which includes the unemployed plus potential workers “marginally attached” to job search and those employed part-time for economic reasons; labor force participation held steady, which must be viewed positively given recent trends.

The report seemed to reinforce impressions that the economy is gaining momentum, a welcome relief after the decline in real GDP in the first quarter. Some referred to June as a possible “inflection point,” but that obviously remains to be seen. Labor market conditions have been less than robust, the unemployment rate is still high for this stage of an economic expansion, and there are still far too many long-term unemployed and discouraged workers.

In addition, very little attention was paid by the media and most economists to a disturbing pattern in the jobs created in June: While total employment increased, there were 523,000 fewer full-time jobs (seasonally adjusted), while part-time employment increased 799,000. ZeroHedge has a brief discussion with a few charts. This undermines the case for real strength. There are fears that more full-time workers will be reduced to part-time status as the (delayed) Obamacare employer mandate takes hold in 2015. The chart above does not include the data for June: 80.8% full-time and 19.2% part-time, so the gap widened.

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